[Futuregen] Fwd: Re: [Futuregen.sb] FutureGEN: Data Navigator public for you for comments and SB notes

Ricardo Rodrigues rodrigues at euro.centre.org
Mon Jun 1 11:43:55 CEST 2020


Dear all,

FYI, the feedback from Francesca below, particularly for the Data 
Navigator. One of the issues to discuss during the AOB session tomorrow 
(i.e. ways to address the fluctuation of data in SHARE). I think she 
makes some valid points.

Eszter, Eileen from the OECD has asked me to keep the two pages public 
for next week as well so that they can also have a look at it at the 
OECD. If no one objects, I would be in favour of that suggestion. I can 
send a reminder to the SB for any comments and that the website will be 
public a couple of days more.

Best wishes,

Ricardo



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Subject: 	Re: [Futuregen.sb] FutureGEN: Data Navigator public for you 
for comments and SB notes
Date: 	Fri, 29 May 2020 21:34:18 +0200
From: 	FRANCESCA BETTIO <francesca.bettio at unisi.it>
To: 	Ricardo Rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org>



Hi Ricardo,
The notes do an excellent job in resuming the questions raised during 
the debate .
I have nothing to add there, except a small point:
'Female experience (e.g feministic theories )' mean?

Concerning the navigator,  while I confirm that the charts are
pleasant to look at, clear and user friendly,  I think some of the 
points that were raised remain
relevant, in particular linking the definition (e.g. of ADL) to some 
metadata or reducing the categories that
  are based on small numbers ( e.g.  tertiles instead of quartiles)

  In particular, I was struck by the variation across waves in 
indicators that are expected
to be rather stable. E.g. why should ADL prevalence among women with 
primary education in Austria
jump upwards by almost 15 points between 2003-24 and 2013-14 while that 
of tertiary educated women
fluctuates within an even larger range and that of primary educated 
Swedish women falls by almost ten points?
Fluctuations over time are even larger for quartiles, with all this 
suggesting that the finer the level of disaggregation the higher the
variance.

If I remember correctly, we discussed this point during the meeting,  
and you stressed that the charts were meant to be
informative about trends rather than levels. My point is that too much 
variance over time
may undermine the credibility of trends.  Even If I had a point, 
however, I may not  have a quick and ready solution.
The only idea that came to mind and which   you might have discussed 
already is  to report
  two-waves moving averages rather than single waves values.
However, I can also see the disadvantages of doing so.

That's all really,
Take care
Francesca






Il giorno mar 26 mag 2020 alle ore 07:39 Ricardo Rodrigues 
<rodrigues at euro.centre.org <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>> ha scritto:

    Dear Sounding Board members,

    It was a pleasure to see you all on the 13.5 and on behalf of the
    FutureGEN team we would like to thank you again for your participation
    and inputs. These inputs were very helpful and will help us to move
    forward with the project.

    Attached you will find the notes of the SB meeting. Please let us know
    if we missed something or got something wrong.

    We are also making the two pages of the Data Navigator public for
    you to
    be able to see, use and feedback to us. The pages will be public during
    the whole of this week and we would really welcome any feedback you may
    have. If you have any comments, just send us an e-mail, please. As this
    is still a work in progress, we kindly ask you not to disseminate the
    links outside the SB group, please.

    You can access the two pages here:
    ADLs:
    https://futuregen.euro.centre.org/adl/

    Formal care:
    https://futuregen.euro.centre.org/formal-care/

    Thank you very much in advance.

    Best wishes,

    Ricardo


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