[Futuregen] Minutes zoom today
Ricardo Rodrigues
rodrigues at euro.centre.org
Thu Jun 27 17:34:19 CEST 2019
Dear Stefan,
Never have the prospects of having 7400+ references to look at generated
in my person such a smile. :) We seem to have found the "bug". It's great.
For me the approach you suggest on the limitations of activity et al,
makes sense, but I'm curious to read what Susan says.
Best wishe,
Ricardo
On 27.06.2019 13:30, Stefan Fors wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> Thanks a lot for all of your input, it was very helpful. I’ve now
> tweaked the search terms a bit and extended the search range to
> include both titles and abstracts for all search terms. This has
> indeed generated a dramatic increase in hits. My last search generated
> >7400 hits. So, the next step for me will be to sift through at least
> parts of this haystack to see whether I can come up with a handful of
> “model papers” to show the search consultation unit at KI. I intend to
> do this later in July, as I’m about to take of for the first part of
> my summer holidays.
>
> In terms of the health outcomes, I certainly see your point Susan.
> Nevertheless, I would still like us to keep the focus on functional
> limitations in WP1 – as they are key drivers of care needs, have a
> high face validity, and can be measured fairly robustly in social
> surveys . So, my thinking is that we include both disabilities (ADLs
> and IADLs) and mobility limitations in the review. Then we can hone in
> on mobility limitations (or/and other comparable indicators of
> functional limitations) in the Europe/Canada comparisons. What do you
> think, would this make sense?
>
> All the best,
>
> Stefan
>
> *Från:*Susan Phillips [mailto:phillip at queensu.ca]
> *Skickat:* den 26 juni 2019 22:42
> *Till:* rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org>
> *Kopia:* Stefan Fors <stefan.fors at ki.se>; futuregen at euro.centre.org
> *Ämne:* Re: [Futuregen] Minutes zoom today
>
> I am annoyed with myself for having the wrong time in my calendar for
> today's Zoom. It was my mistake as Eszter sent the times long ago. But
> - -
>
> I thought the Canadian datasets don't really have ADLs in them which
> would make it hard to use these as outcomes.
>
> I am now about to leave town and have 10 days of holiday so won't be
> doing much of anything on the search but will respond to emails.
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 13:48, rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org
> <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear Susan,
>
> Thanks a lot for the inputs below.
>
> I'm commenting now so as not to lose momentum.
>
> Regarding your first comment on Stefan's review:
>
> what you propose is to replace ADLs and IADLs/disability with
> broader terms in health, right? Question is whether Stefan will be
> limiting his research to ADLs afterwards - if yes, then perhaps
> ADLs and IADLs et al would be sufficient to inform our research?
>
> On your review:
>
> I understand your reserves on researchers that may have done
> intersectionality without using the term(s). Wouldn't
> cross-checking the references of the papers included be
> sufficient? I'm fine with scanning excluded papers, but isn't that
> the same as looking at the 7000 papers altogether? I don't see the
> difference...
>
> It was a pity we couldn't all talk together now, but no worries,
> Susan. We will remind all of the time bext time around (we also
> mixed up our internal WP2 zoom with Stefania today :).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ricardo
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Susan Phillips <phillip at queensu.ca <mailto:phillip at queensu.ca>>
>
> Date: 26/06/2019 16:25 (GMT+01:00)
>
> To: Ricardo Rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org
> <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>>, Stefan Fors
> <Stefan.Fors at ki.se <mailto:Stefan.Fors at ki.se>>
>
> Cc: futuregen at euro.centre.org <mailto:futuregen at euro.centre.org>,
> Afshin Vafaei <avafaei at lakeheadu.ca <mailto:avafaei at lakeheadu.ca>>
>
> Subject: Re: [Futuregen] Minutes zoom today
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I had a different time written down for the Zoom session. I
> will respond to the minutes below in them:
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:45, Ricardo Rodrigues
> <rodrigues at euro.centre.org <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We had a reduced zoom today with only Stefan, Eszter and
> Ricardo. We
> went through Stefan's and Susan's search terms and her was
> what we
> discussed and tentatively agreed to share with you:
> i) Stefan will include sex/gender and the
> socio-economic-related terms
> not only in the title but also in the abstract. The same
> will be done
> for his search term on "health". Stefan will run this
> search till end of
> this week and report back.
>
> I have been thinking about what the purpose of this review is.
> If it is to inform/ provide background for our research then
> limiting the outcomes to ADLs and IADLs is problematic.
> Perhaps you've changed the outcome as you seem to be taking
> about 'health' now.
>
>
> ii) Susan and the others are kindly asked to check
> Stefan's search terms
> (circulated in the e-mail by him before) and add
> suggestions or perhaps
> spot any incongruence that would account for the very low
> number of hits
> he had. Please do this ASAP so it can still be reflected
> in the new
> search above.
>
> iii) We interpreted the search terms sent by Susan as: she
> carried out
> the search described in line 38 in her document, which
> includes all the
> gender, race, socio-economic, etc, but not the
> intersectionality et al
> terms. This might account for the large number of hits. We
> suggest to go
> back to the search terms that include intersectionality et
> al (described
> in line 37 in her document). Our reasoning is that we are
> focusing on
> intersectionality, thus having this search on line 37 and
> then
> cross-checking the references in the hits should be enough
> not to miss
> out on anything major. Please state your views on this and
> if you all
> agree with this, Susan could perhaps replicate the search
> for "care"
> terms. Susan, it was not clear from the text you sent that
> the search
> had been "full text" or not; could you please clarify
> this? Thanks.
>
> The search was of titles and abstracts. Your interpretation of
> the search is correct. I have just asked the librarian to redo
> the same search adding intersectional. But - - here's what I
> wrote to him: /Could you run the search adding intersectional
> as a keyword and see what happens to the numbers? I am
> thinking that we could do a scan of the papers this excludes
> to make sure we aren't excluding essential ones. The others
> say that since what we are looking for is intersectionality we
> should include the term. I don't agree - I think that there
> may be researchers who have done intersectional research but
> didn't name it as such and we want to find those papers. But
> maybe the approach above would satisfy everyon/e.
>
>
> iv) We suggest to continue talking over e-mail. Regarding
> our next zoom
> meeting, originally scheduled for 31.7, we would perhaps
> suggest that
> this takes place the week after (5th of August onward) so
> that Stefan
> could also participate (he is on holidays on the week of
> the 31.7).
>
> Week of Aug 5th is fine for me. Just send me the time since I
> seem to need constant reminders! I could do Wed. or Friday of
> that week.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
> Looking forward to your reply. I will add this to the
> FUTUREGEN.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ricardo
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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