[Futuregen] Minutes zoom today

Wed Jun 26 22:42:06 CEST 2019

I am annoyed with myself for having the wrong time in my calendar for
today's Zoom. It was my mistake as Eszter sent the times long ago. But - -

I thought the Canadian datasets don't really have ADLs in them which would
make it hard to use these as outcomes.

I am now about to leave town and have 10 days of holiday so won't be doing
much of anything on the search but will respond to emails.

On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 13:48, rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org> wrote:

> Dear Susan,
>
> Thanks a lot for the inputs below.
> I'm commenting now so as not to lose momentum.
> Regarding your first comment on Stefan's review:
> what you propose is to replace ADLs and IADLs/disability with broader
> terms in health, right? Question is whether Stefan will be limiting his
> research to ADLs afterwards - if yes, then perhaps ADLs and IADLs et al
> would be sufficient to inform our research?
>
> On your review:
> I understand your reserves on researchers that may have done
> intersectionality without using the term(s). Wouldn't cross-checking the
> references of the papers included be sufficient? I'm fine with scanning
> excluded papers, but isn't that the same as looking at the 7000 papers
> altogether? I don't see the difference...
>
> It was a pity we couldn't all talk together now, but no worries, Susan. We
> will remind all of the time bext time around (we also mixed up our internal
> WP2 zoom with Stefania today :).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ricardo
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Susan Phillips <phillip at queensu.ca>
> Date: 26/06/2019 16:25 (GMT+01:00)
> To: Ricardo Rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org>, Stefan Fors <
> Stefan.Fors at ki.se>
> Cc: futuregen at euro.centre.org, Afshin Vafaei <avafaei at lakeheadu.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Futuregen] Minutes zoom today
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I had a different time written down for the Zoom session. I will respond
>> to the minutes below in them:
>>
>> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 08:45, Ricardo Rodrigues <
>> rodrigues at euro.centre.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> We had a reduced zoom today with only Stefan, Eszter and Ricardo. We
>>> went through Stefan's and Susan's search terms and her was what we
>>> discussed and tentatively agreed to share with you:
>>> i) Stefan will include sex/gender and the socio-economic-related terms
>>> not only in the title but also in the abstract. The same will be done
>>> for his search term on "health". Stefan will run this search till end of
>>> this week and report back.
>>>
>>
>> I have been thinking about what the purpose of this review is. If it is
>> to inform/ provide background for our research then limiting the outcomes
>> to ADLs and IADLs is problematic. Perhaps you've changed the outcome as you
>> seem to be taking about 'health' now.
>>
>>>
>>> ii) Susan and the others are kindly asked to check Stefan's search terms
>>> (circulated in the e-mail by him before) and add suggestions or perhaps
>>> spot any incongruence that would account for the very low number of hits
>>> he had. Please do this ASAP so it can still be reflected in the new
>>> search above.
>>>
>>> iii) We interpreted the search terms sent by Susan as: she carried out
>>> the search described in line 38 in her document, which includes all the
>>> gender, race, socio-economic, etc, but not the intersectionality et al
>>> terms. This might account for the large number of hits. We suggest to go
>>> back to the search terms that include intersectionality et al (described
>>> in line 37 in her document). Our reasoning is that we are focusing on
>>> intersectionality, thus having this search on line 37 and then
>>> cross-checking the references in the hits should be enough not to miss
>>> out on anything major. Please state your views on this and if you all
>>> agree with this, Susan could perhaps replicate the search for "care"
>>> terms. Susan, it was not clear from the text you sent that the search
>>> had been "full text" or not; could you please clarify this? Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> The search was of titles and abstracts. Your interpretation of the search
>> is correct. I have just asked the librarian to redo the same search adding
>> intersectional. But - - here's what I wrote to him: *Could you run the
>> search adding intersectional as a keyword and see what happens to the
>> numbers? I am thinking that we could do a scan of the papers this excludes
>> to make sure we aren't excluding essential ones. The others say that since
>> what we are looking for is intersectionality we should include the term. I
>> don't agree - I think that there may be researchers who have done
>> intersectional research but didn't name it as such and we want to find
>> those papers. But maybe the approach above would satisfy everyon*e.
>>
>>>
>>> iv) We suggest to continue talking over e-mail. Regarding our next zoom
>>> meeting, originally scheduled for 31.7, we would perhaps suggest that
>>> this takes place the week after (5th of August onward) so that Stefan
>>> could also participate (he is on holidays on the week of the 31.7).
>>>
>>
>> Week of Aug 5th is fine for me. Just send me the time since I seem to
>> need constant reminders! I could do Wed. or Friday of that week.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your reply. I will add this to the FUTUREGEN.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ricardo
>>>
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> --
> Susan Phillips MD, CCFP
> Professor and Research Director
> Director QuARMS
> Director: Centre for Studies in Primary Care
> Queen's Family Medicine
> 220 Bagot St,
> Kingston K7L 5E9, ON, Canada
>

-- 
Susan Phillips MD, CCFP
Professor and Research Director
Director QuARMS
Director: Centre for Studies in Primary Care
Queen's Family Medicine
220 Bagot St,
Kingston K7L 5E9, ON, Canada
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