[Futuregen] Next zoom (August) and some information regarding WP2

Ricardo Rodrigues rodrigues at euro.centre.org
Tue Jul 30 09:01:50 CEST 2019


Dear Susan, dear Afshin,

Thank you very much for the update on WP3. I was worried when I first 
read the 18K papers and I'm slightly less so with 9-10K. :)

It seems indeed a lot of work to go through all those papers, but I 
would be surprise that with such a wide range you will miss out on 
something. In any case you seem to be doing very good progress!

I see your point about the possible limited added value of doing 
something similar for care (we would not have resources to read 8K 
papers) as the methods will be the same. However, I think we should also 
have a proof of concept paper on the methods applied to caregiving (i.e. 
informal care) and/or care receiving, either separately or as part of 
your paper on health outcomes. Regarding this, I have two doubts that I 
would like to discuss next week:

i) I wonder if it would still be worth to do a review of 
intersectionality et al methods on care to get information on whether 
particular methods seem to be associated with particular results (i.e. 
if any method seems to potentially under/over-value caregiving, for 
example) against which we would do our proof of concept.

ii) Whether CLSA will be the best data to test the methods on care. I 
would need to remind myself of what are the care variables in CLSA, 
otherwise we could do the proof of concept on SHARE, for example.

I will add these to the agenda for discussion next week.

Best wishes,

Ricardo


On 29.07.2019 15:12, Susan Phillips wrote:
> correction - between 9000 and 10000 papers, not 18000. Makes 9000 seem 
> so much more manageable.
>
> Susan
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 08:41, Susan Phillips <phillip at queensu.ca 
> <mailto:phillip at queensu.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Hi everyone,
>
>     First - an update re WP3.
>
>     We have done a careful and broad literature search after much back
>     and forth to refine search terms. We specifically added ADL and
>     IADL to the search to fit with Stefan's work. We searched 2014-the
>     present in PubMed, Cinahl, Embase and Science Citations (I may
>     have that wrong but it is the listing of thesis abstracts). We did
>     not use these terms: intersectionality, interactions, multilevel,
>     mediation (or any methodology terms) as we did not want to limit
>     to these methods. Results: 18000+ papers. Afshin and I are now
>     reviewing these having made a screening guide. We will both review
>     titles and abstracts for them all (I feel tired saying this) in
>     keeping with systematic review guidelines, although this is likely
>     a scoping review. I have been through 800 so far. There's a lot of
>     junk despite our careful search. Thank goodness in a way as we
>     want a smaller number when it comes to reviewing the whole papers.
>     We are also keeping notes about papers with methods we were not
>     aware of, whether they are papers that end up included or excluded
>     from the search. Finally, I am gathering a small list of papers,
>     also from the search, that may be of particular interest for WP1
>     or 2.
>
>     I have applied for CLSA data which we hope to use for a sort  of
>     'proof of concept' paper in which we apply all the methods
>     identified and compare results to determine which method(s) seem
>     to get at gender the best.
>
>     Re caregiving - I do not think we should do a similar methods
>     search re caregiving. I can't think of any reason the methods
>     would be different than those we are finding and the amount of
>     work is enormous. There are many caregiving papers in our current
>     search however few are about older adult caregivers.
>
>     I suspect I have forgotten something but - - enough for now.
>
>     Susan
>
>     On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 02:48, rodrigues at euro.centre.org
>     <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org> <rodrigues at euro.centre.org
>     <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>> wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         Thanks a lot for your availability.
>         We will have the zoom on 7.8 at 14h00 CET (8h00 CAN time). I
>         think we
>         might need 1h30 for it (see agenda below).
>         Stefania, could you please set up the link for this zoom? Thanks!
>
>         Here is a tentative agenda for the next zoom (will also post
>         this on
>         Freedcamp):
>         i) Discuss progress with lit reviews in WPs 1&3.
>         I must confess I'm a bit concerned with the progress of these
>         and would
>         like to see us pick up some pace here.
>         Susan and Stefan, could you add something about what you will
>         be able to
>         present and what you would like to discuss, please? It would
>         be great to
>         have this till Monday next week, if possible
>          From our side we would like to discuss with Susan how to help
>         her with
>         the review on intersectionality and care and would like to
>         agree on a
>         detailed timeline to complete the reviews with you all.
>
>         ii) Discuss the ideas we have for task 2.1 in WP2 that we
>         circulated
>         before.
>
>         iii) Initiate the discussion on how to select the social
>         determinants on
>         which to focus on. We have already started to discuss this (at
>         least
>         that is my recollection), but it is perhaps good to take this
>         further.
>
>         Please let me know if you agree with the above, or if you have
>         anything
>         else to add (please do!!), before I post this on Freedcamp.
>         Thanks!
>         Best wishes,
>         Ricardo
>
>         On 2019-07-28 20:05, Stefan Fors wrote:
>         > Dear all,
>         >
>         > I hope all is well with you. I'm now temporarily back in
>         Stockholm,
>         > and have had the chance to consult my agenda. The suggested
>         time slot
>         > (7.8 14:00) would work very well for me.
>         >
>         > All the best,
>         >
>         > Stefan
>         >
>         > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>         > Från: Stefan Fors
>         > Skickat: den 25 juli 2019 21:31
>         > Till: Ricardo Rodrigues <rodrigues at euro.centre.org
>         <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>>
>         > Kopia: futuregen at euro.centre.org
>         <mailto:futuregen at euro.centre.org>
>         > Ämne: Re: [Futuregen] Next zoom (August) and some
>         information regarding
>         > WP2
>         >
>         > Dear Ricardo, dear all,
>         >
>         > I think that would work for me, but I don’t have access to
>         my calendar
>         > right now. I will get back to you with a definite answer on
>         sunday
>         > (when I’m back in Stockholm for a brief pit stop).
>         >
>         > All the best,
>         >
>         > Stefan
>         >
>         > Skickat från min iPhone
>         >
>         >> 25 juli 2019 kl. 17:27 skrev Ricardo Rodrigues
>         >> <rodrigues at euro.centre.org <mailto:rodrigues at euro.centre.org>>:
>         >>
>         >> Dear all,
>         >>
>         >> We are making use of the summer time to enjoy the sun here
>         in Central
>         >> Europe (and Ireland, for Stefania), but also to progress
>         with our
>         >> work. :)
>         >>
>         >> We had decided to postpone the zoom originally scheduled
>         for 31.7 for
>         >> the week after due to the vacations of several of us. I
>         wanted to get
>         >> back to this and suggest that the next zoom takes place on
>         the 7.8 at
>         >> 14h00 CET (8h00 CAN time?). Would this suit you, Stefan and
>         Susan? If
>         >> so, I would soon post the agenda on the Freedcamp. If you
>         are not
>         >> available, please feel free to suggest an alternative.
>         >>
>         >> Speaking of which, Afshin, we have sent you an invitation to
>         >> Freedcamp, which is a sort of intranet we use for posting some
>         >> communications, deadlines and documents related to the
>         project. We
>         >> usually use the forum section to post the agenda and
>         minutes of our
>         >> meetings. Welcome! :)
>         >>
>         >> Ahead of the next zoom we are sharing with you in the
>         attached doc
>         >> some of the ideas that we have been discussing about how to
>         carry out
>         >> the first task of WP2. We would like you to have a look at
>         these as we
>         >> would like to hear your thoughts on our plans during the
>         next zoom,
>         >> please. Thanks in advance.
>         >>
>         >> Best wishes,
>         >>
>         >> Ricardo
>         >>
>         >> <FutureGEN WP2 analytical strategy_25_07_2019.docx>
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